Archery, powerful bows and arrows

Archery, powerful bows and arrows

this is one of our you longbows and as you can see the you forms are natural laminate this is the heartwood the inner part if you cut a log through the tree you'll see you is made of the soft creamy outer wood and the hard core wood now this harder core fits into your hand and resist is resists compression and actually the force and the belly of the bow the bit will all the strength is the outside stretches or holds the bow together and it forms a natural kind of spring this is a bow here which is about 70 or 80 pounds pull which isn't as much as they were using in the medieval warfare periods it had another 50 or 60 pounds and weight to that but is a big bow by today's standard on the end of the bow on here we have Knox made of antler sometimes they're made of horn just to protect the actual wood from the string and this is a fearsome weapon this will shoot an arrow easily 200 250 yards and that arrow will take you off your feet at the end of the day it's a tremendously powerful weapon and this is what we use to slaughter hundreds of thousands of French people in the Hundred Years War Iraq unfortunately English you isn't the best wood for making a few long bows and even in the medieval period we imported the wood to make the you bows so we were importing it from Spain right up to the point we started fighting Spain they thought let's not supply us with the weapons other words you can use ash is very good and the Welsh who developed the longbow were using which elm which was very naughty and horrible and gave bows looked very poor indeed but actually shot quite well and from that the English longbow developed here I've got a couple of examples of our arrows in the end here you can see we've actually inserted a small piece of horn the wood is cut down and a piece of horn is put in place this is so when the nock the bit that the arrow fits onto the string of the bow it is supported these bows are very strong they're accelerating very fast and the arrow can split if you haven't got something supported there we have a simple parallel shaft with three feather fletchings on it these are goose feather traditional goose feather and on the end here we have this is a modern version of a medieval Arrowhead this is a armor-piercing arrow head at bodkin point and this is the type of thing that'll Pierce train mail and indeed armor and here is a handmade version of a needle bodkin same as this but elongated developed and this Pierce is almost anything really this will go through clay to put this through metal shields and to chainmail this is just a collection of holes it goes through without thinking about it the point just gets in between the links splits them open and passes through into the person if we shot something like this and an unarmed person with one of our average bows nothing particularly strong this might stop at the feathers this is a massively dangerous thing people who really do not realize how dangerous these bows are but of course you know you teach our children are and our archers to shoot responsibly and safely because they are so dangerous then you got to realize that and this is what we try and demonstrate and showing our in our shows you

36 Replies to “Archery, powerful bows and arrows”

  1. Magna12 tell the guy from three rivers he's full of shit.the ship is called Mary rose.NOT Queen Mary. WTF.

  2. "We teach youngsters to shoot responsibly and safely because they are so dangerous." Why then does not that apply to firearms ? The British totally disintegrate on responsible firearm use and ownership.

  3. A 44 magnum can penetrate a 1,5mm armor plate but not a level IIIA bulletproof vest, at the other side a 60 pounds modern compound bow with a medieval bodkins point broadhead can penetrate the same bulleproof vest as butter, compounds (pulley bows) perform twice the power of traditionals (recurve, flat, composite, long, selfbows) so a 120 pounds longbow would do the same than a 60 pounds modern compound to a modern bulletproof vest.

  4. Plate penetration has been proven to be guaranteed at 20 yards or less. This is 60 feet away.

    It will not penetrate at 200 yards which is where Longbowmen aimed for to disrupt the enemy at distance. Vollys of 6000 arrows raining down on the enemy did a good job of disrupting and dispersing the enemy. When fired at the side of a charging cavalry wearing plate armour, the weaker armour on the flanks of horses were pentrated with ease. Also the breastplate armour and the backplate armour of the enemy were thicker and in the main was impregnable, but joints, arm and leg plate were not. Remember though armour was not standard, it was made by different blacksmiths who used varing quality of steel and varying quality of "fit". Soldiers who gained weight since having their very expensive armour made still wore it despite the ill fit.

    All videos you see are testing penetration of breastplate armour only. It is ridiculous to think longbowmen aimed for breast plate or anywhere else. Arrows were launched at 45 degrees into the air and hoped for the best. This is also never taken into account.

    Ask any of the testers to wear their plate armour and have a 120Ibs Longbow fire an arrow into it from 20 feet using a hand forged bodkin arrow tip. None will accept the challenge and there is your truthful answer.

    And yeah, a Crossbow is much more powerful at short range, but crossbows will not kill the enemy at 300 yards (⅓ of a mile). The bolts are not designed for long flight, are much lighter and at range does not have the same continued forward force of an arrow with a heavy arrowhead dropping from 200ft+.

  5. Very interesting. But arrows probably couldn't really penetrate plate armour and then still do much damage. Appearently found bodies from people that were killed by arrows were almost always hit in the face.

  6. wonder if he knew that such a heavy weight was for war fare and not everyday use.
    most people that had to shoot those 120lbs bows or more had hunched backs and bent fingers.

  7. The reason the warbows back then were so powerfull was that they shot very heavy arrows ,more than twice the weight of the arrows we normally use today.

  8. i'm kind of great wih bow and arrows just gie me a target i'll get him down in a few shots

  9. You must be typical representative of USA citizen with full of stupidity and nonsense for these interesting things.

  10. Bodkins are not armour-piercing.
    Historical bodkins were made of iron, which is not hard.
    A bodkin tipped arrow shot from even a very powerful bow will not pierce period mail worn over a gambeson. It certainly won't pierce steel plate armour.

  11. cont, so as for the bows, they say the yew was often imported from spain and portugal, till of course the war over the church, and that they would also use wytch wood and were actually based from a type of bow that the welsh had made before the english adopted it, but I dont doubt the claim that the bows were upward that weight. as it were they were also shot off the knuckle, but mine though being a custom I cheat a little and have an arrow shelf on it otherwise the arrow falls off even canting

  12. cont, so that even a small man could draw a very large weight bow, I on the otherhand cant even shoot 45 longbow decent and doubt I could ever pull back something warbow weight far enough to launch an arrow, as for my english style bow, its bamboo and hickory made by Stephen Thompson who was trained by bow ledgend Jaap Koppedrayer, and not only are they friends, but he helped make the cores for the yumi bows for the movie last samuri, so he is fairly good, my bow is 40 lbs at 28, made in 2010

  13. cont, the 1/4 inch shafts were much heavier then of course the modern day ones and would have more momentem comming down as they were often fired in an arc and would rain down, therefore offseting the lost energy from the distance, and that since even many pesants had bows their numbers were large, and would train from childhood, shooting over 1000 arrows a day, and since the bow also was a means to get food it was a necessity, as for the huge weight they say its about technique not strenght.

  14. um well I dont really do facebook, I do study a bit into differant bows, my facination is the japanese bow the yumi, did quite a bit of looking at those, as for war bows well I know a little, I know what I have heard, but sometimes conflicting about the whole bodkin style point, that it was simple iron, and on the other hand that it was not just iron but an early reinforced steel which was easier to make then reinforced armor as it was smaller, as for the arrows they were 1/4 inch and were heavy

  15. (continue). Another interesting discussion is wether the laminated warbows outshoot the best yew bows. My experience is that they don't when it comes to war arrows. Check out the flight record list you find on theenglishwarbowsociety and see for yourself. Laminated bows only hold the record for flight arrows, while yew bows are equal or better in all three of the war arrow categories. I'm open to believe that you are able to make laminations that are as good as equal to the best yew though.

  16. I know that 3 rivers make many good bows. And being a bowyer I'm too well aware of how hard it is to find high quality yew. Still, all I really wanted to point out was that the bows from the MR are more powerful than up to 120 lb. And if you study bows as you say, then please read the books "weapons of warre". And then sign up for the FB group "bad ass archers". There we are many bowyers and archers dedicated to warbow archery, and several people making warbows based on the MR bows. (tbc)

  17. as for making them I cant speak for the whole karch family, but dale and sandy the owners, designed a real fine bow in the tommahawk bow line, and the great plains archery company that makes the bows for them, they are worth every penny it costs for one, I dont know if they make true english long bows, and sarry for the cussing but even pacific yew here is rare.

  18. I dont make bows, I shot them, I study about them, as for yew wood, well, no shit sherlock, it is very hard to find yew, let alone a decent piece, now if you have made selfbows out of yew more power to you, what three rivers has though is many men that live and breath archery in general, I have seen johnny the owners son make a bow, it was out of maple though, a shorter longbow, and many of the bows they have english style are rudderbows, or composits but they shoot with more cast then any self.

  19. .. (continue) Even the latest book about the MR states this, the book "weapons of warre". This book also has dimensions of all of the bows thay found, making it easy to make bows similar to the ones they used. You also find quite a lot of people able to shoot 150 lb bows, even people shooting up to 200 lb bows, proving this weights are manageable.

  20. It was a common belief that the bows were not any heavier than 120 lb, but I'm not the only one making, selling and shooting bows made from true dimensions from the MR-bows. I'm not sure how many replica bows true to both dimensions and wood quality you or the guy from 3 rivers have made, but even finding a piece of yew with the quality they used is hard. Both me and others that have made several true replicas have proved the most powerful bows to be closer to 200 lb. TBC

  21. the ones found on the queen mary were said to be 120lbs draw, and that was told me by a guy from three rivers when I asked what is the largest weight bow, he said well the ones on the queen mary were 120 lbs, and the archers on there had bends in their forearms from the emence weight of the draw and shooting them often, but the one thing is that it depends on how they shot the shafts were infact very thick and heavy and could hit with lots of momentum at terminal volocity and not all had plate

  22. I've made more bows following the dimensions from the MR bows than the average bowyer, and as long as the dimensions AND the wood quality are correct, many of theese bows end up over 150 lb. Both I and others have also tested theese bows using arrows equal to those used back in the old days, and they do penetrate quite well as long as the bow is 140 lb + shot from 60-70 yards. Using a 90-110 lb bow you will have some more trouble penetrating armour, at least until they are very close.

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