Fencing Gadgets; Gripples Vs Crimps Vs Fencing Knots. The Positives and the Negatives

Fencing Gadgets; Gripples Vs Crimps Vs Fencing Knots. The Positives and the Negatives

every industry has gadgets and fencing is no different today I'm going to talk about two I'm gonna talk about cripples and crimps how do they work should you use them are they really worth it now there's a reason why I don't like cripples and I would never ever recommend using ripples on a vineyard or on a fence of any description because this is a vineyard I look after have a look at this there's the other end of the wire there the gripple has come loose after a couple of years any gadget that requires a lot of moving parts and Springs and things is probably going to fail and your fence is probably going to break oh hey if you like this video press that little red button down there yeah won't cost you anything you can subscribe to my channel and let's enjoy each other's company over the coming weeks Cheers okay so this is your group –all Gribble's are really really popular ways of joining wire because they're incredibly easy you don't have to have any special skills at all there is a large hole on the on each end of the gripple and there is an arrow pointing in the direction to which you poke the wire through the large hole you don't park it through the plastic you poke it through the large hole so we simply get our wire we poke it through like that and the gripple is stuck in one direction on the wire now what we're going to go and do is we're going to set our fence strainers up we're going to tension the wire and then we're going to get the other the other end of wire that's being tensioned and put it through the other large hole and have it come out in the opposite direction and they're going to hang onto the wire alright so we've got our chain on the strainers attach the other end and crank it up nice and tight okay so now we've got our wire strained up all I have to do is poke this end through where the arrow is and pull it nice and tight when I let the strainers go that will take the strain of the wire now that's it your wires now nice and tight and the Gribble's going to hold the load some people trim the wire off here and here but that is incredibly incredibly dangerous there are moving parts in here and this is relying simply on a pinching wire in one place only I have seen these Gribble's let go and I've seen a man's hand fare sliced in half by a wire because he was working near a gripple that let go so what I tend to do is if I'm forced to use cripples I don't like using them because I find them very unsafe but if I'm forced to use Gribble's what I actually do is I tie the wire off in a pigtail behind the gripple now the next thing I'm going to show you is a little crimp now you can buy those crimps for about seventy dollars for a hundred of them so they're about 70 cents each and they've got two holes in them so it doesn't really matter which way you put through which hole but you simply slide them onto the wire like that we're going to slide this on I'm gonna put the strainers on here again like I did last time and we're going to tie up the crimp behind the strainers so I'll just go ahead and we'll put the strainers on to the wire hook up our other side as per last time wind it up and I'll show you how the crimping tools used okay so we've got our wire strain nice and tight this is the wire from the other side I'm simply now going to poke this through the other hole in the crimp pull the crimp up to where I want it make sure that I pull this wire here nice and tight pass the strainers make sure that there's not a big bow in it now this is the only downside of the operation this piece of equipment here this crimping tool costs you about a hundred and eighty dollars it's very well made but it is expensive to start using these gadgets see paying 70 cents for the crimp you're paying a hundred and eighty dollars for this you could just learn some fencing knots and not spend any of this money but the today's videos about gadgets so let's get onto it so when we're doing up our crimp it's very very important that we use the right hole in the crimping tool for the size of crimp that we're using this is a two and a half mil crimp and it's also incredibly important that we start on one end of the crimp and work our way to the other end overlapping our crimps so we simply squeeze it on nice and tight move the tool along the crimp a little bit and you'll see that the crimp is oval you squeeze down on the higher parts you move along a little bit and you crimp down all the way until you get to the end by the time you finished you should have a nice smooth crimp without any seams in it once you finish doing that you can undo your strainers and your wire it's fully tight crimps have actually been found to be stronger than fencing knots so there is an advantage in using these guys that's why we use them on high tension power lines and all sorts of things they will actually outlast a fencing knot and do a slightly better job but there is the cost involved and they are a bit fiddly I reckon I can actually tie a knot faster than do a crimp okay so here's our three options we've got a gripple at the top we've got our crimp in the middle we've got our good old fashioned knot at the bottom now what are the advantages and disadvantages of each let's start out talking about the gripple it's really easy someone who knows nothing about fencing whatsoever can strain offense together put one of these on it and walk away the downside is they're about three dollars each you must not reuse them because they've got a wearing part inside and if you reuse them they can let go with catastrophic consequences and they're not as safe as the other two options because they can fail from time to time the crimp slightly stronger than or not it's the strongest of all the three options they're a little bit fiddly to put on they are reasonably low cost but the tool you need to get started with these things is going to cost you a hundred and eighty dollars finally we've got our good old fashioned knot it's going to cost your time getting to learn how to do it but hey isn't that part of the whole process of farming is taking pride in what you do it's not going to cost you anything and you're going to be able to replicate it time and time again for my money it's out of these two I usually go with the knot when I want to save money but every now and then I might leave myself a little bit less wire or it might be in a rush and so I go with the crimp thanks guys I hope that was useful don't forget also if you like this and you want to see more videos like this please hit the little red button down the bottom and subscribe to the channel doesn't cost you anything and it really helped me thanks guys

29 Replies to “Fencing Gadgets; Gripples Vs Crimps Vs Fencing Knots. The Positives and the Negatives”

  1. What you're missing out re the Gripples – you can buy straining tools that'll hold the Gripple and pull the wire through to a specified torque. I use them all the time, and if you spin or bend the wire tails, the Gripples won't fail. I've only had them die on a third re-use. You're giving them an undeservedly bad reputation, because you're not using them properly.
    Re the crimps, why pay so much for the crimping tool? Electrical crimpers work exactly the same, can be strong enough to crimp steel tube and cost a quarter of the crimpers you've used. Think laterally!

  2. Tim, that's an excellent video!! Wondering if you've used Spiralfast to join? Avoids the mechanical joiner problems you mention and retensioning is a breeze. No special tools required, just your strainer and apply by hand – super quick to do.
    Keep the videos coming…

  3. when should I use barbed wire or not use it ? I have sheep and plan to get cows . I have barbed wire on the perimeter fences . what kind of wire is good for dividing the pastures . thanks a lot

  4. EXCELLENT video! Thank you so much for writing about this stuff. As a novice, I need all the info I can get! ๐Ÿ™‚ I nearly wasted $$$ on gripples…We have the expensive crimping tool you showed, but it is so heavy for me to hold while I try to get the crimp in the right position to pinch it! ugh. I am going to watch your video on knots again…

  5. I have always tied knots in my fence. But I have an upcoming job with horse (no climb) mesh that is going to require multiple splices in the mesh. Tying knots in this is far from reasonable, I am leaning towards crimps for these splices. But perhaps the new gripples are the way to go

  6. Thank you Tim. I found you from On pasture. What knot would you use to join the wire instead of the gadgets? The figure 8 knot?

  7. …very nice…trespassers have no idea or care how expensive tools and wire are and how much hard work building a fence or hanging a gate requires…they just put there boot on it and climb over…then lawsuit you when they fall…do you do any high tensile barbwire fencing any more ?…we have predator problems here in WV…USA

  8. Use gripple as shown then tie/wrap ends around wire like any other fence knot, close as possible to gripple. Just an extra safeguard if gripple fails.
    Just a handy tip ๐Ÿ˜€

  9. Great video Tim…I have never had a Gripple fail and use a gripple strainer a lot when repairing fence wire….,but of course I twitch the wire at both ends of the gripple. Crimping is fiddly and takes too long…but in my humble opinion a good knot cannot be beaten. I think with fencing it also depends on the age of the wire you are straining and or joining so for old wire I go to the end of the post and replace the old wire with new! Your tips are great ( and I am not talking about your hair)

  10. Actually the crimper, you can take a large bolt cutter, many run you for like $20, and you take a decent metal bit in the diameter of your crimp and drill a hole, to convert a standard bolt cutter into a crimper/swaging tool. you can still keep the back jaws of your bolt cutter too, for cutting, so you now have a multi-tool, like most lineman pliers, you have your cutting edge and your crimping edge.

  11. Tim! You forgot to mention that an advantage to Gripples is the wire can be retensioned down the track, something you cannot do with that knot or crimp. You also didn't mention ratchet strainers or permanent wire strainers – they can be as cheap as a Gripple and easy to use, and make retensioning a fence very easy for years to come. Very common in NZ. I have loads of rough older fences that often need tightening during their life and opted to use these over Gripples because you only needed a small shifter to tighten as you ride past.

  12. Great video Tim I use Gripples most of the time and have never had one fail (or injure me!) I use the Gripple tool thingy to re-strain the fence and it works fine. I also usually do a figure 8 knot at one end of the replacement wire as well and I also use a Texas fence fixer which is a great product!!

  13. Not pushing the button why does every want me push the button if I like your page I'll subscribe to it but when you asked me to I'm not going to.. and I like gripples

  14. Tim the gripples in your video are really old they havent been around for probably 10 years or more. There is also a special vineyard gripple called a jumbo which the waratah people sold me at a field day here in SA specific to use for their growire and ive been using them ever since, i get them from my local store. you should give them a go – no problems like the old ones you have – you will be surprised how good they are and we mechanical harvest no problems. i am now using them on big strains and 3.15 wire so they are heavily loaded.

  15. Good video Tim.
    Couple things.. I disagree on the gripples. Properly used they hold just fine. And your paying way two much. Also you should try a good masdan come along instead of that chain strainer. Pulls just as hard and a lot handier to use.
    I know you guys in East Texas (from your accent)๐Ÿ˜‰do things different but give it a try.

  16. Gripples with a special gripple tensioner tool that pulls them tight is great for short runs under 5m. Otherwise need to use ratchet tensioners that are around $5 each. I use knots for longer runs but for short runs and joining mesh gripples are easier.

  17. Great info here Tim! I must say as a Kiwi I was pretty glad to see some trusty Hayes 108's and Strainrite crimping tool in use there! My boss has a good ten sets 108's we use day to day that I imagine are nearly older than me (32!!) and still do the job every time. They seem to be the standard here in NZ for contractors and so on. Is this the case in Aus as well? Kinda leads me to my next point ๐Ÿ˜› Was thinking it would be great to see a video on a bit more tool maintenance. I know you did one about looking after your hammer but I've found myself wondering things like how often should I sharpen my spade, oil my eze-pulls, chain strainers and stuff like that. Sadly my boss isn't huge on maintenance and stuff like that but as an ex-chef I know all too well the importance of having your tools in good working order. Anyway, thanks again for a great video, always looking forward to the next one!

  18. Good video Tim. The first rounds of Gripples, which you are demonstrating, have a well deserved bad reputation. We use and abuse the current versions every day, and don't have the failures even after several years in service. The original version was bad to let moisture in, then freeze and destroy the inner workings. The Gripple Plus…..right around a dollar if you know where to shop ;-)…..seems to have solved this issue, as we have temperature swings of up to 130 degrees F, with high moisture, in a year without seeing these issues anymore. I agree that a hand tied knot is always superior, but isn't always an option for DIY fencers or high volume contractors. Tying real fencing knots is become a lost (never found, in most cases) art here in the States, and that is sad. Proper knots are a display of craftsmanship that few understand and appreciate.

  19. Very good. I've been skeptical of gripples. Looks like I'll be sticking with knots and crimp sleeves. Keep the videos coming!

  20. Tim, of course another informative video that helps us blokes building fence. Thank you. I have shared your videos on my social media and look forward to sharing and giving you shout outs on my channel.

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