How to Pour a Concrete Patio with Post Brackets for Fences and Patio Covers

How to Pour a Concrete Patio with Post Brackets for Fences and Patio Covers

[Applause] [Applause] hi this is David Odell with Odell complete concrete what we're gonna do here is a little front patio Edition and we're gonna do a most trip down the property line well this little front patio area will attach to that sidewalk entry and the property line most trip will go down the property line and what I'll do is I'll put some CB 44 post brackets into the concrete every eight feet then we can build a little wooden fence off of that and the beauty of setting with of post bracket is if the wood were to rot out for some reason you can always replace it easy without having to mess with the foundation here's the patio right here what we're gonna do is match this sidewalk elevation and then we're gonna want to slope it away from the house so basically on the house side we want to be about two inches higher than at the lawn that's where we'll set a form along that lawn edge we want to make sure that that's about two inches lower than against the house so the water won't set against the house this concrete's not going to go all the way over to the property line it's gonna stop right at the corner of the house so the side gate area will be D G or some kind of base just or gravel something like that to walk in and out of that area the grass had been removed already in this area so we just had to focus on getting all the dirt out of here and all along this sidewalk entry I'm gonna drill into the side of it and put some rebar dowels out of it it's the last thing you're gonna want is the concrete to start going up and down at that seam to makes a little trip hazard at that point let me put the dowels and that's gonna buy you a lot of time without it moving independently from one another now on the arm post anchors we're gonna also put post anchors around the outside of this little patio so it'll be semi-enclosed basically a little privacy wall base it's kind of differentiating everything from the yard and probably put a little flower garden in front of that and then the lawn will dig some 1×1 holes where the actual post brackets are gonna go that way when we set those post brackets down they're going into concrete all the way so I put a few string lines up here and there from the top of the outside perimeter boards to chalk line that'll be established on the house neck gives us art grade now here's the property line here we're gonna do about a 1 foot wide concrete strip what gives they're nice most strip on each side of the new fence in other words you can run the lawnmower over the concrete without hitting the actual wall or fence or whatever you might have there so we're gonna have a 12 inch wide band here we're gonna have a four inch fence so we're gonna that leaves us with four inches on both sides of the fence nice most strip for either either property now going down that side yard I think it worked out to about seven feet spacing you know so I had even so the posts were spaced evenly all the way to the back of city sidewalk what I'm gonna do here is do the concrete and I'm gonna put the post brackets in the actual fence build is gonna be a homeowner he's gonna take care of the actual fence build and what its gonna consist of is some 4×4 post and then I think he's going redwood as well it's not gonna be a high fence will be like a four footer redwood four by fours with redwood two by six is running horizontal for a four of them so you probably have about one foot spacing in between those two by sixes running horizontal now we're running two plate compactor here and the dirt stuck a little bit to the bottom of the plate compactor we had to scrape it off from time to time just to get it to move we compacted both directions so you got basically two times with that plate compactor over everything now we've got gals into this sidewalk so the rebar I'll just slide into those holes I do more of a slip down so that I'm drilling a half-inch hole and I'm sliding a three-eighths rebar in there if you really want to get tricky you can put some epoxy in those holes and then slide the bars in there so I'm using a 3000 psi 3/8 pea gravel Punk mix with fiber mesh in it now if you notice I have no Dobies no chairs on that that rebar what I do have is a guy lifting it though as we pour backwards this assures the rebar not getting stepped on while it's in the air on Dobies or chairs and getting bent up when it gets bent up in a thin slab like this you're gonna have parts of the rebar sticking above the concrete and something you don't really want now that we've got the concrete bowl floated we have it we have everything edged we've got to get these brackets in before it gets too hard now if you notice the direction I have these turned then the corner I have it turned this direction here on the other ones I have them all turned the other way and this is just a matter of preference really but there is a little bit of a structural value in turning them opposite directions off the corners now I don't use the brackets with the two half inch bolt holes that go all the way through I like the ones with eight screws hardened screws on each side they seem to work a lot better and they stay tighter there are a little bit more money but they're a lot better bracket then the drill through and put two long bolts all the way through this got this has a hardened screws on each side though they rarely come loose so we have those setting up above the concrete about 3/4 of an inch so that assures that the post won't absorb water at the bottom and even you won't get dry rot on the bottom of those posts the water will drain away quickly and the beauty of having the brackets rather than just wet setting your posts in the concrete is if the post were to be changed at some point you could still utilize the same brackets and to make a lot easier to change change the fencing without having to do an entire footing again now on that most trip we ran a bar on each side of the post brackets all the way down on each side this is the finishing procedure that you'll want to kind of go by what we've done is we've both floated we've funny floated walking edged and we may even hit it with big blue or a Fresno maybe even a funny trowel and then we'll give it one kneeboarding by hand and then we hit it with a 50/50 horsehair nylon broom and call it a day now it's still pretty hot right now outside it's in 80 plus temps so I'm gonna hit this all with some concrete curing compound to assure that it carries evenly and slowly that way it will prevent possible shrinkage cracks also watering the jobs not a bad idea as well here's the material that I use for curing goes down white dries clear and you'll see here how we spray it you can see it's white the beauty of that is you know where you've sprayed it and how thick it's going down before it dries clear what we'll do also the next day we'll come over here and we'll saw cut this into five foot squares we'll also throw some sockets in that band in between every post because obviously your Congress not going to crack where your post is because it's thickened so there's no sense in putting a joint where where the actual thickened posts are so what you want to do is try to get your cuts control joints in between those thickened areas this is it may not crack or it's thickened but it will crack in the thin areas the laser lay out all my lines on myths of the thickened post areas which is a good thing when I've got a seven and a quarter diamond blade on a skill saw cuts it like butter on the next day if you wait you know a week or so you probably already have cracks in it so there's not much point cutting at that at that point the fiber mesh allows you to cut it the very next day without any chipping or spalling now I'm just free handing these cuts on the bandwidth a little right angle grinder four and a half inch diamond blade a lot of times it's hard to get that powder residue concrete residue off the job although it will come off by itself in time I like to get it off after I get done cutting though that way everybody likes it right away so I use a pressure washer and that gets all the concrete residue from the sock cutting off real quickly you can see here how flat this concrete is there's no birdbaths in it all the water is already ran off this only has about a 1% slope which is 1/8 inch per foot and when you put the sock cuts you know in a nice tight grid like that that all also helps disperse the water that's what it should look like when you're all done and then when in defense see that post bracket they're off the wall that allows for a gate passenger gate there anyway thanks for watching the video if you like them subscribe hit the bell next to the subscribe button if you want to see the latest and greatest as they roll out also I'm adding a gift link on on the description of this channel and that's going to be you can buy gift cards and purchase stuff through off of my website through the storefront thank you bye

20 Replies to “How to Pour a Concrete Patio with Post Brackets for Fences and Patio Covers”

  1. Question:
    You had mentioned making cuts between each post, and I have been told that if anchors for patio cover posts are set in the concrete when it is poured, cuts must be made in line with the anchors to control cracking. I did not see that done. Is it necessary to make cuts from anchor to anchor?
    Thank you.

  2. Hi Dave! If one guy (me) is 80# bagging a 8 x 16 front porch with posts, can it be done in sections? Like 2 – 8 × 8 sections. Due to time, back pain and making them look right. Nice work, your videos are a great tool.

  3. Are those permanent post brackets removable? I ask because the property owner before us installed a 6' wide patio cover on a 12' wide x 46' long slab. It looks ridiculous. We want to extend the cover to the maximum width for full shade coverage. I can't find anything on YouTube.

  4. What do you use against the house to give space between concrete pour and house? Do you use thinner wood for the frame?

  5. Hey Odell, Can I input the Post Brackets like this for a Patio cover too? Will it be okay to support the weight Of a Patio Cover ?Or is that only for Fencing when push the brackets into the wet concrete, into the pre dug holes ?

  6. Dang you’re a concrete wizard. Also you should read audio books with that soothing voice. You’re basically the Morgan Freeman of concrete YouTube videos.

  7. I am trying to learn from your videos. Where do you rised? I have patoo 30 x 12 it is in the front of my house i want to try to do it my self.

  8. Thanks for the vid. Im wondering why cut the concrete instead of putting joints in as you finish? Please let me know thank you!

  9. Hey buddy I love your videos I am currently trying to grade my side yard so I can pour my first slab I wanted to know if you can pour over copper pipes I may have to reroute them higher as the are right against the house weaves creek??? (Spelling) just wanted to see if you ever ran into that before. I Am really happy I found your channel

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