S3 Archery – Why Do I Miss Left?

S3 Archery – Why Do I Miss Left?

hey guys Joe here at s3 archery and today I'm get to do a video that I've been wanting to do for a very long time and one that I think applies to every single Archer out there so what I wanted to come to you today and talk about was a video called why do I miss left so no matter what your skill level whether you're a novice and an amateur or professional we've never had an archer who's gone through their entire career in our tree or their entire habían archery and not had a problem that's crept up with them missing left so this applies to every single Archer out there and it happens to me all the time and you have to battle through it and what I wanted to do today is come to you and provide a checklist if you will to go through and try to eliminate that issue of missing left so this is not an all-inclusive video about all the fixes that you can do there's just every single Archer is different but as a I'm an analyst in my real life and over half of the battle is identifying what the problem actually is it's not actually implementing a fix or coming up with a fix it's identifying the problem so that's what I want to do with this video is give you guys a bit of a checklist to go through and pinpoint why am I missing left whether it be that day that week or that month what is the problem so I can start addressing it so with this video I'm gonna start off and I'm gonna talk about the most obvious things first I'm gonna work my way down to the less obvious things as we go through it and as always feel free to post comments underneath this video and I will give my feedback and you can give your feedback as well if I've missed anything there's no way I can cover everything so I'll just try my best this is all based off my experience I should say as well so obviously I've read books and whatnot but for myself being an artery for the past ten years most of those with compound and then the last three years in traditional archery I'm going to talk about the things that I've done incorrectly and the things that I've done to address that so let's kick off the video and we'll just see what you guys all think so I think all you're gonna find it very beneficial so you're missing left and you're trying to figure out what the problem is the first thing I would do is I would address the issue of concentration and figure out is it a problem of concentration or not so in order to do that what I would do is I would put out a bale or put out your block turn it all one color put some white paper over it or spray paint it and then put one orange dot or put a black dot in the center of it and what that's going to do is it's gonna help you especially as an instinct of aperture concentrate on a target there's no distraction there's not all these different dots out there different colors it's one dot one color and it'll really focus you in on that target and help you concentrate so with instinctive archery unlike a reference system you need to create a connection with your target you have to link up with it I'm gonna call it that and as you're pulling back you can never break concentration with that target so if you're shooting at 3d targets or or posters with all sorts of colors and things on it your eye can begin to wander a little bit so you're looking at what you want to hit for a second but then your eye breaks contact and you try to get back with it but it's too late once you've broken that link you can't build it again until you let down and you start over from so think about your concentration I'm trying to get rid of all distractions besides one dot the best way to doing that like I said get a blank colored Bale put a orange or black sticker out there shoot one arrow at a time and if you're still shooting left it's probably not an issue of concentration that's probably something different so let me just keep moving on so let's move on to number two then what's the next thing that I would do after concentrations then you eliminate as a possibility I would this will be the most controversial thing in this video but I would look at your stance so as an instinctive Archer we're told all the time that you want to have a very open stance as it helps you gauge distance because you have both eyes on the target and it shortens you up a little bit but it really helps with that yard estimation as instinctive Archer but the problem is when you are very open to the target you create Mississippi with your with your frame and when the shot goes off everything wants to recoil back to the left and get back to that tea that we're used to so what I would propose is if you set up like this and you shoot and you put your arms straight out to the side see how it's aiming away 45 degrees over to the left turn your hips over and get them pointing much closer to being straight up at target you just way to do that let's move your feet like stop being so open get your feet more in line with the target and then when you lift your arms up you'll find you're much closer to being straight in line and when that shot goes off it recoils less to the left because you're already in you know your body is already kind of maxed out it doesn't want to go much further to the left so I know a lot of people who watch Olympic recurve shooting everybody in Olympic Rico shooting is going to a very open stance and then what they end up doing is they don't shoot like this they'll end up actually turning their hips and they shoot in perfect alignment as you were perpendicular to target but they have maximized their hip turn so there's a very little chance of them missing to the right that's why they do that it helps them lock up their body if you will but if you're not practicing that for hundreds if not thousands of shots a day if you're just honest you're just doing this for fun you're never gonna become consistent with that form so not saying you have to get rid of your open stance just minimize your open stance or start reducing it a little bit out of time and see if that helps bring your arrows back to the right so that was number two next thing I want to talk about was the grip of the bow so if you're somebody and you're going back and forth you're going between wando's and recurves a recurve grip wants to get your hand into the throat of the grip a little bit more and when you go to a longbow most longbows want to be more of a straight wrist so if I put my finger out or my hand out like this it wants to be more like this where you wrap your fingers around the grip and you have a very flat wrist whereas with a recurve it's gonna want you to bend your wrist in into the throat of the grip so now it looks more like this so if you've been shooting a recurve for a long time you're used to this grip and then you go to a longbow that requires more of a flat wristed grip but you have around the throat what ends up happening is when that shot goes off the bow ricochets it recoils to the left and it happened so fast that it's gonna actually induce some left into your arrow and you'll miss left a lot and you'll get more sporadic in your shooting so I would recommend taking that grip and trying to rotate get that hand rotate it around and get more on the side of the grip instead of behind the grip and you'll find that that arrow will move over right so that's tip number three next thing I wanted to talk about was torquing the string so I did a video about a year ago and it was about canting the bow and you'll see a lot of traditional archers you have a very upright spine angle but then their bow is canted at 40 45 degrees if not more and wow it's very hard to tour the longbow it's gonna fight it with a recurve you're thinking that you're getting away with it it allows you to do it but in reality what's happening is your limb tips are being torqued and there's a bend in them and when the shot goes off the tips recoil and they spit the arrow to the left so a lot of those left misses are because you're torquing the string your string angle is more upright than the bow angle so what I would propose is going out there and making sure that your spine angle is the exact same angle as your bow and in that video I posted about a year ago what I would do is stand perfectly upright get your bow perfectly upright and then bend your spine angle to how you're comfortable and just let the can't of the bow turn with your spine don't move it with your wrist so find what spine angle is comfortable for you and let the bow angle be whatever your spine angle is and I think that'll really help you in the lunate nose class next thing I want to talk about was equipment changes and more particularly arrow changes so if you're somebody who has been shooting thin arrows for a very long time I'm thinking like Easton taxes traditionals is our 9/32 inch arrows or gold tip traditional arrows those are 5/16 and you're going to an eleven thirty second or twenty three sixty fourth seed or arrow or a big thick aluminum arrow just the physics behind that the arrow because it's getting thicker it's actually pointing more to the left so the end result is gonna be your arrow is gonna hit to the left of where you're conditioned it for it to go so if you've done the equipment change recently to a thinner arrow or to a bow that shelf isn't as cut to Center as your previous bow be aware of that and know that you are gonna miss left and it's just a matter of putting in the time with that new equipment to bring things back to the right again and even though this is gonna seem like the most obvious tip in the entire video and one that should have been placed at the very beginning as the most obvious I think it's the hardest to diagnose and the final thing that I would consider is fatigue so each one of us archers we love to do archery that's that's why we're doing it is we just love to shoot and fling arrows and what happens a lot of times for archers I believe is you get in your head that I'm gonna shoot archery for two or three hours today and you just shoot over and over again and at the beginning of the day you'll be shooting great we've all done this before you're shooting great you're hitting everything that you're aiming at just a banner day and as the day goes on you start to fade you get fatigued you get tired and your form changes because you're tired and you begin missing a lot whether it be pointing to the left a ton to the right missing high low you start to think that it's your form and it is your form but it's not because you have bad form it's because you're fatigued out and the biggest issue that I see with becoming fatigued is getting in alignment pulling back I'll say so you have a short draw let's say that functioning at the camera in a normal day when I'm shooting I pull back and I look like this my right hand my string hand gets in alignment with the target I shoot and everything is in alignment as I get more and more fatigued and I get shorter and shorter you can see my right elbow coming around and the more that my right elbow comes around the side of the target the more that when I pull the boat puts a little back tension into the string before I shoot it the more I'm pulling to the right and not pulling the string to the right makes the arrow go to the left of course so make sure you watch yourself that's why I believe things like the cricket exist is to basically identify you're getting shorter you're not pulling back far enough so you can buy a cricket if you have this problem of the Teagan out or make sure you put a black line at your draw length on your arrow shaft and if you shoot with friends a lot have your friends take a look and if you're you know a half inch an inch two inches shorter than your usually than your usual tooling I think it's a really good time to maybe take a break come back a couple of hours later and shoot a couple shots or maybe take a break for the day I mean we're human beings if we're gonna get tired we're gonna fatigue out and just have to recognize that and I think it's much better to have very good practice and be conditioning your brain good things good thoughts and seeing it hit the target than just trying to fight through it and deteriorate basically as the day goes on and condition yourself that you're not good at art be missing all the time and I think it's gonna add verse ly affect you so I just wouldn't do that so keep in mind that fatigue is this and maybe stop at some point so those aren't really my tips and tricks for trying to avoid missing left I hope you find it beneficial if you find yourself missing left today or tomorrow or the next week or any time try to go through that checklist in that order and I really think it's gonna help you shoot much straighter get a lot more X's or hit a lot more spots and enjoy our tree a lot a lot more so hopefully that's helped until next time shoot straight and thanks for tuning in

34 Replies to “S3 Archery – Why Do I Miss Left?”

  1. Thanks for the tip. I agree with the (too) open stance. Accuracy can b achieved but you must have a solid bow arm, and #2 for me shooting with a too open of a stance can lead to shoulder impingement on your bow arm! Practice both ways for hunting scenarios but close your stance a bit more for long term shooting.

  2. Right handed. Spine too stiff. Forces not in balance, bow arm too strong or drawing side too weak. Bad loose, don't throw out. Don't look at the left edge. You probably think too much. Learn how to create a less divergent set-up. Talk less, practice more. Expect it to go where you're looking and be careful where you look.
    It's not about avoiding missing. It's about hitting the mark. Think about that.

  3. But did you miss spine? If you think about the archers paradox, you might find this a good explanation for missing left, too. Because the arrow gets bend by the bow to the left, it doesnt flex back enough to bypass the obstacle and "rebounds" to the left.

  4. These technique(s) insights are fantastic for new archers since we simply do not have the shooting experience to work out common shooting errors- thank you! The feet alignment (very much like golf) and linking with the target helped huge! I also realized the I have been over-compensating for avoiding string-slap and shots were being pulled left.. Thanks again!

  5. I noticed on several of your video your follow though ends with your bow hand left. You still hit the targets if my hand ends up left I hit left.

  6. Going along with the fatigue item, it isn't just the duration of the overall activity, it can also be not enough time between successive shots. I catch my self drawing arrow after arrow from my back quiver, never breaking my focus on the target. And the worse I'm shooting the faster I get to try to make that next good shot. Recently, I've started breaking focus after each shot, looking around and behind me and waiting at least one minute before the next shot. Sometimes, I'll even only shoot one arrow and then go retrieve it to allow my muscles to relax and regroup.

  7. Thank you, thank you oh thank you !!!!! I have struggled for months trying to stop my arrows shooting left with my new american flat bow. I have sought advice from numerous good archers of many year experience to no avail. Your video did it! Changed my grip and stance and what do you know? No more shooting left. Thank you again.

  8. This video was really useful. The concentrating on the target (your first point), may seem obvious but it helped me a lot. I tried blanking off the target and just using a small dot – it worked!
    In hind sight I guess other stuff in my head was taking priority (anchor point, grip etc.). Once concentrating on the target took priority, other thoughts are blanked out. Great video – many thanks.

  9. great vids sub here!I need advice, I keep nipping my nose sometimes till I bleed.i since switched from 3 under middle finger corner of mouth anchor to split finger corner of mouth but still hitting .Even went from brass to tying my nock ….ugh thanks

  10. shooting compound bow. I'm shooting to the left. can't move my sight over.if I do then I won't be able to see the pins. need help thanks.

  11. These tips sound pretty useful, but you leave out one really important thing and that's arrow spine. Too flexible or too stiff of an arrow will cause accuracy problems. The factors that determine what arrow spinage you need is the draw weight of the bow at your actual draw length, and whether your bow has an arrow shelf or not and how deep the shelf is cut (for example a shoot off the hand style bow whether it be a self bow or a laminated bow needs a little more flexible of an arrow than a cut to or past center recurve bow with draw weight being equal)

  12. Great video. I've recently got back into shooting again after many years. I have found that I am shooting left regularly (only by couple inches). I think I will take some video of myself and try some of your tips. I think I will look at my stance first, as you say I stand open but maybe need to just turn in the hips. Thanks for the pointers.

  13. Dear S3, I'm fairly new to traditional archery. Everyday after school I put hours of work in my backyard shooting. And I've been doing vast researches on new techniques because I'm still trying to find a technique that works for me. Right now I'm using a 40 lbs fiberglass recurve that is God only knows how old it is. but it seems to me that it gets weaker and weaker almost on a daily basis. But my real reason why I'm writing this is to ask you a question. My question is: How do I stop my arrows from whipping up and down and left to right? I've seem to tried everything but nothing is working. Could you please help asap?

  14. great advise, i used the technique of moving my right foot back, closing my stance and have seen a lot of improvement in my shot placement. thanks and keep the videos coming they're very informative. i look forward to watching them.

  15. Thanks for talking about the detail regarding the tips. Most of these tips have never been mentioned by my instructor even though I have always shot to the right (left hander). I plan to review your video a few times and see if I can solve my problem.

  16. recently started shooting a 55lb bear grizzly. so far so good, but when I miss i miss right. I watched your video about missing left….what about missing right. I am a right handed shooter. left hand is bow hand, right hand is used to draw. thanks.

  17. Great video! I actually just started shooting instinctive and a lot of my shots were left. Actually low and left so I will give these tips a try. Thnx!

  18. Excellent tips and I struggle with this especially since I recently began shooting traditional equipment. Just as a question, what is the longbow you have in this video?

  19. I have a problem that's crept up in my shooting, and it's not missing left.  I've actually never had that problem.  My problem is shooting high and right.  I've tried different spines, different bows, and I seem to always hit very right and slightly high.  I've adjusted stance, tried different draws.  If my target would conveniently move into the path of my projectile, I'd be getting tight groups, but that never seems to happen for some reason, haha.  I've been sport shooting and hunting with iron sighted rifles for years, and that was the problem I had in the beginning there too.  High and right.  I was surprised to be having the same problem in my transition to archery.  I'm new to the sport, only a few months in.

    Might help to mention that I'm left handed, but since I'm right eye dominate, I feel more natural shooting bows, and long guns right handed, but I would swing a bat, or shoot a handgun left handed.  Don't know if that's important information or not.  If anyone could give me some advice, that'd be awesome.

  20. best veido i have ever seen. i have been shooting componds fo 38 years and started trad 6 years ago and never had anyone to help me. but i cant wait to shoot tomorow to try this out. thanks my brother

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