Table Tennis Rules of Illegal Service

Table Tennis Rules of Illegal Service

35 Replies to “Table Tennis Rules of Illegal Service”

  1. I agree that the call of fault service for Ma Longs serve in the case study is incorrect but believe it was still a foul serve for the ball moving backwards towards the body. ' not even near straight'?!

  2. Emratthich no one needs to be a table tennis player to understand the rules. This also goes for umpires.
    No engineer needs to be a pilot to tell you exactly how the airplane has to be maneuvered with the instruments. And there's not one astronaut on the planet who can use the controls, as he wishes.
    To give you another example. A sports trainer doesn't need to be a pro by himself to tell you exactly how you should behave either. Experience is NOT knowledge!

  3. No la lanza hacia arriba, la arrastra. Al final la suelta pero es tarde. He didnt throw the ball, he drag the ball. At the last time he release the ball but its late. Fault. Saludos de Bolivia

  4. this serv is legal? what do you thinking about that amateour match?

  5. One point: "near" vertical could mean that vertical is illegal, because it is saying to throw the ball at an angle that is anything other than vertical. This is just simple logic. If this was law, it would allow you to throw the ball subjectively because no definition of angle is in the law.

  6. Ma Long's hand keep moving upwards after he throws the ball, so there is less separation between the hand and the ball. Had he stopped his hand motion right after the throw, you could clearly see that the ball travelled enough. But it shouldn't matter! And that's where the lack of playing experience of the umpire tells. Or the lack of understanding of optics, which is crucial for an umpire.

  7. empire was right…. the serve was bad .. on camera you can do all such measurements, but in realtime you got to make a call in a moment….

  8. Well,I think it was high enough,but if ML dont move his body backward,he trow the ball behind his back for sure. /like so many other player…/

  9. What happens if the ball cracks during a rally? Ive heard soany differents opinions how to act in a situation like that.

  10. There should one rule, the ball must be in front of the body at all times. That will make the game more interesting

  11. Excellent shown sir,we can learn lots about services, many times many players do illegal serve and umpire knows nothing about this and many times umpire wrong players correct, but in India 70% of players playing by illegal service, umpires here are not strict.

  12. Here is a link to a sound file with "umpire":

  13. Calderano always hides the ball with his head. When he gets a warning, he starts to argue and then does the same serve again. If the umpire is weak, he will not give a penalty and so Calderano will keep on serving illegally during the whole match.

  14. It's easier to violate throwing height rule during backhand serve among amateur player. and yes, standard of umpire for ITTF are getting worse as there is no pre-requisite that umpire need to be a former player, which, they should be.

  15. Part of the problem is inconsistent calls by umpires. Few are strict, following the rule book.. But the large majority don't, and let marginally illegal serves slide. The problem is that this conditions players to think that their illegal serves are legal. And when they encounter a strict (but correct) umpire, they will be very bewildered that their serve which they've done 100s of times without any call, is now being called illegal. It also makes it difficult to tell if this umpire is being legit or not.

    Additionally, from the POV of the umpire, it can be very difficult to tell. If the hand is flat during the toss, but immediately after the fingers curl, it covers the ball from the POV of the umpire, and he/she won't be able to tell if its illegal or not.

    IMO, players should really make sure that their service is completely visible to umpires. Otherwise, its just tempting a strict umpire to make life difficult for them.

  16. The case of Ma Long that you presented, the umpire call was correct and it is a fault serve, the ball did not leave his palm for 16 cm. However, I really wish you showcased the more recent calls the were specifically geared towards the Chinese team in the World Team Cup 2018 and the WTTTC 2018, the umpires deliberately would call faults on the Chinese players, while other players like Ovtcharov and Boll would get away with it! I also saw one of the Hong Kong's team players argue with the umpire over a fault service call when the player was facing the other way of the umpire and he still called a fault, the players argument was, "how can you tell its a fault when you cannot see?" and the unpire answered "well I can tell", I cannot remember which tournament this happened! it could be the german or the qatar open this year

  17. Watching slowmotion videos of Ma Long and acording to the rules, a lot of his serves are illigal. Don't you thing? Thanks, great videos!

  18. Well coach, this ML service is quite borderline. 15,25 cm? Very close! Palm or fingers? Vertical? Don't know what ML tried to do when executing this service. I guess he didn't expect the umpire to go for call, but big surprise! My advice: use services that are far away from beeing suspicious in any way, especially when it's a close situation. The umpire will not change his mind, the point is lost and your pulse is at least 20% higher. And don't test how far you can go in using the "grey area" what the umpire allows.

  19. Good information. The correct thing would be that you put in the description the link of the original video since I saw it and it explains in detail the failures at the serve.

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