Traditional Archery Shooting Tip | The Gap Method For More Consistency!

Traditional Archery Shooting Tip | The Gap Method For More Consistency!



hi joe mcclane here from catholichack.com with another traditional recurve archery tip the gap method hey it's been a couple I guess so probably over a month since my last video on on traditional recurve archery tips here but I've been really busy at work and weather's not been great either but luckily I've gotten some shooting in not as much as I like but but god is good all the same but you know some time ago I had somebody comment on one of my videos saying they wanted more information on gap shooting sort of a video focused on gap shooting so I thought I'd love to do that you know this is the probably the first opportunity I've had to try it so here we go we're going to give that a try but before we begin to talk about the gap method in particular I really want to stress this one point first you need a repeatable precise shot cycle okay this is very important it doesn't matter what method of shooting style you use gap method string walking instinctive I mean you could be shooting targets hunting even aerial targets none of that matters because no matter what style no matter what you're shooting at your shot cycle has to be repeatable and precise I mean you can't name an archer you know no matter who that archer is Jeff Kavanaugh grizzly Jim Jimmy Blackman I mean you name them Byron Ferguson all of these archers have a repeatable precise shot cycle they do the same thing from the way they grip the bow before they even raise that bow up onto target the way they acquire their target is the same the way they raise their bow hand and come back to anchor the same Anchor Point the way the elbow is is lifted or or or not I mean it's all the same the way they release the way they bring their hand back wherever that might be the way they hold their bow even after that arrow has left the bow all of that is exactly the same every time okay so that's step number one in becoming a better archer it's really creating a repeatable precise shot cycle you know in fact a lot of times when I'm practicing I really could care less where the arrow lands I will just be out there practicing form okay it listen don't get me wrong you don't need the same form as me you don't even need the same form as is Byron Ferguson you need a form that will work for you that you can repeat every time listen II you can look at the difference of where your arrow impacts and make an adjustment to move it onto target but that won't work if your shot cycle isn't precise okay so it's very important that you create a shot cycle that works for you that you can repeat every time so alright so we got that down let's talk about gap shooting now I used to shoot string walking method a lot loved it got some great results but I found myself shooting with only one eye and from a hunting perspective I didn't find that ideal so I kind of morphed into a gap method that I have sort of configured from my own sake and I just talked about that in other videos with my bow and the the notches that I have on the belly of the bow that I use those are my gaps right there and I kind of have my style is a lot like Byron Ferguson you know the famous archers been on TV everywhere he's an incredible archer I'm not an incredible archer but but I have I've adopted a similar style in that I on the point that I'm trying to shoot at you know 90% of my focus is on that point 10% is on my gap my little reference point Byron uses either the tip of the arrow or his knuckle or something I can't remember which it was but something along those lines okay so I find it to be a very good repeatable style the gap method you can trust it you can build confidence in it that's what I love about it alright so talk about it so the first thing is this your arrow when you're when you loose your arrow it does not fly straight to the target you you obviously know that already your arrow flies like a football it goes up once it's released it Peaks and then begins to come down onto target right so if it has this arch well then we can calculate the gaps at various distances and use them to our advantage me it's that simple at 10 yards the arrow is going to be still climbing as it passes the target it's still going to be on an upward trajectory you know depending on your bow set up how your poundage the kind of arrows I had the weight of the arrow the fletching you might use all of that will have factors in the performance and arrow flight the arch I mean look at compound bows for instance very flat trajectories I've seen very flat trajectories on traditional bows too so you're going to have to figure out your setup in this equation okay so um what we need to do is calculate that path and at 15 yards it's still going to be climbing at 20 it's going to be probably peaking out at 25 it's probably may it may still be peaking out but it may be starting to come down and 30 it's definitely coming down at 40 absolutely and 50 even worse you see them saying so you're going to have you're going to have a positive gap and negative gap so you're going to have to incorporate here's what I mean so you got your target out here and you're going to want an area where you can shoot arrows at this target and not worry about losing them over the top or the bottom okay so you know shoot safe right but don't lose your arrows either so standard 10 yards from your target and put the tip of the arrow or some reference point but put let's for the sake of the video let's say the tip of the arrow right smack dab in the middle of your impact point you know the bullseye now shoot an arrow what you're going to find is that arrow is going to aim is going to land high it's going to go over the top of your your target because again at 10 yards when you release that arrow it's climbing it's still climbing as it passes the target it's it's not peaked it's over here it's climbing okay you're too close so shoot three arrows at ten yards aiming at the exact same spot the center the bullseye and taken up I take an average so the center of your group and measure down to the center of your target that's your first gap let's pretend for a second that that's 30 inches so free let's pretend for your setup that's 30 inches so now at 30 inches measure 30 inches from the center of your target underneath your target so 30 inches below the center of your your bullseye and pick a point it's probably going to be in the dirt you're going to be picking a point in the dirt don't be afraid it it's going to work out trust me you put you it you put your tip of the arrow on that point let your arrow fly you're going to find that if your choice ichael is precise and repeatable that those arrows are going to go right into the center of your target they're going to land right where they won't wait right where you want them to be okay so try that take that first ten yards measure that distance and then pick that distance below your target pick a point out put your tip of the arrow on it shoot it and you should be in the bullseye now repeat that process back to 15 yards go back to 20 yards and 25 and 35 or 40 or however many yards back you plan to shoot and take these measurements find the opposite impact point and shoot it now when you get past say 25 yards like I said that arrow is beginning to fall so when you add 25 yards let's let's let's say for let's take 40 yards for example at 40 yards when you put the tip of the arrow on your bull's eye and you let the arrow fly it's going to land beneath your target you're going to miss low so once again shoot your group take your measurement the center of your group to the center of your target and then now flip that up so to take that measurement and let's say again that's 30 yards pretend like it's on 30 inches take a 30 inch point above your target put your tip on it shoot it now your arrows should be in your bull's eye to make sense hope so but that's essentially how you calculate your gaps okay so get a measuring tool tape measure get a nice target have the patience to do this well because you want to make sure those numbers are precise and when they are you can count on them every time and the next skill you're going to want to practice you know especially if you're a hunter is is determining distance I spend a lot of time when I'm shooting especially during the hunting season or when I'm ramping up for hunting season trying to determine those distances how far am I away from that tree how far am i away from that stump how far am i away from whatever so I will try to test my own skills make a guess and then I will often check myself with my rangefinder but what I do is I go out to my field near my house set my orange ball up on the side of the of the of the ditch wall and I'll step back 50 and 60 plus yards and I won't measure at all you know I'll just I'll just go back to a long distance and I'll guess and I'll take my shot see how it goes and I try to test myself that way by doing that I build those gaps and those that distance judgment into muscle memory and it becomes easier to employ without thinking about it so much so that's kind of how I do it that's how I incorporate gap shooting and into a quasi traditional instinctive mode I focus on a point but there's ten percent of me that's also paying attention to my gaps and I've like I said before they have those gaps you know little diagram on the belly of my bow and in my peripheral vision I can actually see that so makes sense now there will be I'll say this also there there's going to be a point where the gap at a close distance will be exactly the same the gap at a far distance that's because of this you know there's a point where they're on the same exact elevation the arrow is right so that point could be say 25 yards and 65 yards or something like that I don't know you're going to have to figure it out for your rig but but it's an interesting concept you know you're going to be aiming at the exact same point at those two distances even though they're different from one another and that's because of this arc so there you go that is the gap method I encourage you to try it never be afraid to experiment and try new things in archery you know some people are strictly traditional Oh only instinctive only only only instinctive and only this way or only that way I'm not that way trust me now I say try different styles see what works what doesn't work and focus on the style that maybe you've gravitated to if you want to be a fully instinctive shooting Archer then go for it do that you know to do that well you're going to have to commit yourself to practicing only that style until you really got it down and it becomes instinctive and muscle-memory for you but I've kind of been on a journey in archery to discover what do I like which styles am I am I most enjoying or finding the most success with our body types play a big role in that too I'm a big guy you know some I have to kind of set my form up to slightly different than that then say smaller guys but all of those factors play a role but never be afraid to experiment and if you haven't done so experiment with the gap method I think you'll find it's it's an enjoyable style and you'll get good results alright I'm praying for you that you shoot straight and I hope that you'll pray for me that I shoot straight and if you haven't done so please click Subscribe below like the video share the video comment on the video hey have you done a gap method before what were your results did you like it did you not like it I mean I want to hear from you no matter what that comment is leave it below I look forward to that sharing is the way we learn as archers right helping one another route all right so next time may God richly bless you

37 Replies to “Traditional Archery Shooting Tip | The Gap Method For More Consistency!”

  1. Thank you very much for the explanation… i think the gap method is depend on draw weight… but for me it works everytime…

  2. I'm new to archery, so bear with me. It seems that it makes no sense to talk about the arc of the arrow. Relative to the bow, the arrow is falling from the instant it's released. Unless it's rocket powered. There are two things for which the archer must compensate. One, the parallax error resulting from the archer's eye being higher than the point of the arrow. Two, the fall of the arrow. Wouldn't it make more sense to explain the simple concept of parallax error instead of complicating the explanation with all that arc nonsense?

  3. That you very much! I’ve watched allot of videos trying to learn this and everyone else doesn’t explain worth shit.

    It’s common sense now that I hear you say it. But when you are missing above the bag it’s frustrating . But now I’m shooting 3 inch groups

  4. In Ancient Times Man had the Thumb Method of Range Finding. Then came the Brass Stradia. https://www.amazon.com/19th-Century-Brass-Range-Finder/dp/B008BW4I4I

  5. Great video Joe, I'm looking at some of your past posts and came across this one. I'm entered in a Spring tournament and will be shooting 40/50/60 yards and going to give this a try, thanks. God Bless.

  6. It takes a lot of arrows to fine tune any sighting system. Just a different take. Gap vs String Walking. Both you need to be a pretty good judgement of distance outside of a range target at defined distances. In the Gap method not only do you have to judge the distance, but also at various distances you have to be able to judge your gap distance. Like for example at 20 yards your gap needs to be lets say 9 inches. How do you accurately judge 9 inches by looking what 9 inches on your target. which could be any shape depending what your trying to hit. Two variables. String Walking you still need to be able to judge distance but for example at 20 yards put the point of your arrow exactly on target and use whatever your using for instances at 20 yards exactly 7 stitches in your tab, a card with your calibration, one guy his system was at 20 yards it was exactly three of his fingers. So using the gap you have two variables String walking only one.
    One is no better than the other depending on what you like and if it gets you the results you like. One you have less guess work.

  7. Hello sir actually I do something different. Is the best of both worlds. I do a fixed crawl and then I love my gaps to be much tighter. Gaps are too large otherwise. Don't you think? Don't you think that a fixed crawl combined with a little bit gapping but very narrow gap with the Point aim is much closer is much better. ? thank u ?  what do u think

  8. i use a mix of "instinctive" and the gap method. i know at around 25 yards, i can aim 1 to 1 with my arrow point, and then i just adjust according to distance. At close range i use 90% instinctive, and from 20-25 yards and up, i use 90% gap. works perfect for me.

  9. you are great guy I shoot compound with sights and have gotten success. got a cross now from injury from auto accident.
    Not so hot with it it's forward heavy awkward to hold still with out some type of rest. I feel the spirit to use long bow and want accuracy top priority. need good equimnet and arrows. I'm worried about draw weight limites from injury. disabled not lot of extra .money even used bow passed on. The doctors think the
    practice could help me keep disability into action. any suggestions. I'm idolize Bryon Ferguson. a gentle soul good man
    some day I want to meat him.
    send info on a way to get hand me downs, scratches don't matter just work and have soul to help
    with this process.. I'm wondering
    about sling shot performance
    is simular with (repeatable)
    sequences and maybe gap
    The same processes? what do you think??

  10. Hi Joe, thanks for breaking down gap shooting. It was very helpful.and presented in away that was clear and concise.

    Rick Mansberger out

  11. The distance I anchor on the side of my chin up to my eye is also a gap reference point .I sight off the bow limb the same distance up from the arrow rest and line the bow string up with the arrow , the way you aim a compound bow with sight pins . This works well for me on a 20 to 40 yard shot , there is not much fall in the arch of the arrow .I aim with one eye I am trying to master both eyes open with not much success

  12. Do you have a clip that that shows the diagram you added to the belly of your bow and how you worked out the scale?

  13. good job keep up the good work. I use the same kinda style as you were I focus on my target like I am instinctive shooting but I also look at the tip of my arrow. good luck hunting.

  14. I loved your video, and particularly the comments about working on your form. I love instinctive, but have always been curious to try gap shooting. What I wonder though is how it works with hunting. I mean, when shooting instinctive, does not really matter if I'm using broadheads of field points. If I were to use the tip of the arrow as reference though, the broadheads have different length than the points, so I guess my reference would change? Did you find much difference?

    May your aim be true 😉

  15. Hi Joe,

    I somehow understood the idea of gap shooting and will try it myself next time.
    There is only some argument with your explanation.
    The procedure of the gap method has to do with optics and less with the physical flight of the arrow.
    For me this explanation seems to be a little misleading.

    bst rgds from Hamburg / Germany

  16. Joe, bro I'm an atheist, and I love your bow teachings, I like the bible info too! Have said many times I have zero issues with any bible history, I appreciate the history, and archaeology of it all, don't understand the political atheists that whine about everything lol, my big issue was always resurrections, just FYI, however thanks for the instruction on the stop gap, you teach well my friend, easy to,follow, easy to understand! Ty cheers!

  17. Nice video but I cant do this lol. I shoot straight instinctive…… When an animal steps out for 2 seconds for a shot  I cant guess distance.

  18. Talking to Edward Teach, he's using the tip of his arrow as his sight, depending on your anchor point you put the arrow tip on the bulls at 10 yds its going to hit high. Same as iron sights on a 22 rifle sighted in at 50 yds its going to hit high at 10 yds. Sighted in at 10yds going to hit low at 50 yds. On an arrow at ten yards gotta put the tip low to hit bullseye.

  19. You've a good voice, delivery, script, prescence, and camera work.

    However, your videos just rehash other archer's videos, and you add totally unecessary and unwanted religious references.

    So, try doing original material without scripture and your ratings will probably soar. I'd like to see that for you ; )

  20. Does the height of your target matter? I'm assuming it has to be the same height at every distance? but does the initial height matter?

  21. This was the most lucid video on the relationship between Instinctive shooting and gap shooting for me on Youtube.

    I completely understood this, but I also watched the Jimmy Blackmon video and did not understand it.

    Your video however was completely clear.

    Thank you so much.

  22. i wonder when i switch from practicing ; with my recurve bow ; back to my compound bow if i am hurting my form ; i am bit of novice ; or will diligent practice with both styles get me there ?

  23. Before it comes to drawing lines on my riser, I'll just use a sight. I'm trying the instinctive route first. I used to shoot instinctive extremely well, but at that time, I shot many rounds of arrows almost every single day. I don't know if I can commit that much time to it now. Not to mention that my eye sight is nowhere near what it used to be. I don't mind using a sight if instinctive doesn't work out for me. I first told myself that I would avoid the sight or not shoot recurve at all. But watching these videos on shooting the gap has actually made me change my mind about shooting a sight. The gap method seems like shooting without a sight just for the sake of shooting without a sight……when you are actually "sighting" in the bow with your gaps. It seems like people are trying to "fake" instinctive for the sake of being able to shoot the instinctive class tournaments. Before I go that route, I'll just used a sight. I know some with big egos will take offense to that. But deal with it. I really don't care how people shoot and not judging anyone. Thanks for posting. I watched J.B.'s video on gap shooting already. He is an awesome shot using that method. Thanks for the prayers! I need it! 😛

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